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Real Xray Physics 101 - Please read before making requests !

Unread postby Escher » Fri Mar 15, 2013 12:50 pm

I was looking through the xray request section, thinking I might brush up my skills a little when I realised that virtually none of the pictures posted have any chance of being real xray'd. Seriously, its like 1 in a 100 if your lucky.

Most people still seem to be unaware of what is required and the board is clogged up with no-hopers. I thought I'd write this mini-tutorial explaining how real xraying works and which pictures to use.

So we want to get a real xray of 'Vicky' below. She's wearing a skimpy bikini so its almost a certain that her nipples will pop out like magic when xray'd, right ?

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Wrong !! Bikinis and swimsuits are the absolute worst item of clothing to xray as they are specially built not to be see thru.... Heres why -

In order to see anything, light from that object must be reflected into the eye (or camera). No light = no see anything. This is true for every object in the universe. On the nudey vicky below then all the light reaching here is reflected back (minus a bit that is absorbed into the skin) so her breasts are clearly visible.

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What happens when you put a layer of cloth in front ? Most of the light doesn't reach the surface of the skin and even less reflects back.

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The two main factors that affect this are the density of the material and the colour. To see though any clothes at all, the weave of the material (how tightly closed the stitches are) has to quite loose. The reflected light you are seeing is where the incoming light has passed between the rows of thread and reflected back directly. The closer the weave the less area reflected back and the less you will see (imagine a fishnet bodystocking where most the 'material' isn't actually there, hence why they are so see-thru). Incidentally, this is the reason that clothes become see-thru when wet (think wet T-shirt competition), as the water acts like millions of tiny lenses and allows the reflected light a path along which to bounce back.

The second factor is the colour of the material. White objects reflects almost all light (which is why they are bright) and black objects absorb almost all light (which is why they are dark). In the case of black object the light is absorbed as heat, which is why black object get very hot in the sun but white doesn't. The best colour for xray is white, as more of the light will be reflected through the fibres rather than absorbed and turned to heat. Remember what I said above, no light = no see.

So why are bikinis bad for xray ? Usually for two reasons, one is they are usually made of very tight knit weave material and the other is they usually have a light absorbing layer built in (or double layered). Women tend to get a bit funny about showing their naked breasts off in public (strange creatures !) so bikini manufacturers deliberately make bikinis so that they don't pass light through them (now you know where all them tan lines come from). The bikini is usually dyed with a chemical that stops light transmission (high end bikinis) or more usually a second layer of opaque material behind the 'fashion' material. The light may pass through the outer layer but its got no chance of passing through the opaque layer and scatters rather than reflect.

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The only bikinis that can be successfully xray'd are very very cheap single layer ones, and not many women will wear them as they become see-thru when wet. 99% of bikinis are double layered or treated to stop them becoming see-thru, hence they can't be xray'd. This is only a bikini as well, the situation is even worse for a bra where there is usually an outer layer, a couple of mm of padding and an inner layer. Xray success = zero. Add another layer of clothing on top and you'll be lucky if a hospital xray machine could see through it...

A quick word on angles - The angle of shot can make a difference on whether anything is visible or not. When light hits a rounded object it doesn't reflect straight back but is scattered off at all angles.

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If the shot is taken from the side then any light at all that could be bouncing off a nipple is scattered to the four winds instead of straight back at you. The best pictures are ones that are straight on to camera, only that way will there be enough light to make anything visible. Anything over 45 degrees and your wasting your time...

Right, I know your all going to say 'but I've got a bikini xray that looks awesome, the nipples are very clear'. I'm afraid to say its almost likely a fake. By fake I mean someone has used a 'burn' type tool to 'enhance' the nipple. Doing this makes it a FAKE. Using any tool at all that selectively alters some pixels but not others is a FAKE. The only valid methods for a real xray are operations that happen on the whole area like brightness/contrast/levels etc. As soon as you go near the nipple with any kind of tool its a FAKE.

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So just to recap then -

Single layer clothing - possible, the lighter and looser the weave the better.
Double layer - maybe possible but usually not if swimwear
Triple layer (bra) - No chance.

Try to use shots that are directly in line of sight to maximise the amount of reflected light.
Xraying through a thick top, an outer layer of material, 5mm of foam padding and another inner layer of material is impossible !!!!

Saying all that, there is very cheap swimwear around and single layer cheap bras, so keep your eyes peeled and learn to recognize what is possible and what is not. Hopefully we can cut down on the number of requests like this one -

"Can u xray this, I can already see her nipples !!"

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Re: Real Xray Physics 101 - Please read before making reques

Unread postby dilbert » Fri Mar 15, 2013 2:27 pm

good topic...making it a sticky! You may want to add example photos of what is considered to be x-rayable and what is not. My rule of thumb is, if you don't already see "something" with the naked eye, any x-ray enhancements will not work... thanks

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Re: Real Xray Physics 101 - Please read before making reques

Unread postby Escher » Fri Mar 15, 2013 3:09 pm

No problem, thanks for the sticky 8-) I'll upload some pictures later showing what to look for and whats possible/impossible.
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Re: Real Xray Physics 101 - Please read before making reques

Unread postby Escher » Fri Mar 15, 2013 4:37 pm

Ok, here are some examples of what will work and what work, mostly self explanatory !!

These work easy, single thin layer of material, no bra, forward looking

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These ones might work with a good bit of work, thick material but no obvious bra

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You've all seen these before, black top with a camera flash makes half the work already done

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Thats all that will really work, the following will not work (unless your really really lucky).

Heavily patterned tops. Even if it was possible, the pattern means you wouldn't see the nipples anyway.

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Metallic / shiny / satin material. Too much reflection from the surface, not enough light reflecting off the skin below.

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Obvious bra wearers, makes it too thick to see through

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The dreaded double layer bikini. The only one possible 'might' be the one in pink, but highly unlikely.
From left to right, too thick, too patterned, too thick, maybe possible, too patterned.

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All the wrong angles. Even if they were all transparent, you would hardly see anything.

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Re: Real Xray Physics 101 - Please read before making reques

Unread postby Brandon heinz » Fri Jun 06, 2014 10:54 am

Can you X-ray through jeans?
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Re: Real Xray Physics 101 - Please read before making reques

Unread postby FakemyFriends101 » Wed Jun 18, 2014 7:14 pm

Could you do these
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Re: Real Xray Physics 101 - Please read before making reques

Unread postby ynwa12345 » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:07 am

This is a tutorial thread, genius.
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Re: Real Xray Physics 101 - Please read before making reques

Unread postby Wet1050 » Mon Oct 12, 2015 6:01 am

Okay well can u do this maybe?
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Re: Real Xray Physics 101 - Please read before making reques

Unread postby Deesenuts » Thu Jan 21, 2016 7:13 pm

Please please xray this
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Re: Real Xray Physics 101 - Please read before making reques

Unread postby kinghacker » Mon Mar 07, 2016 1:11 pm

Please x-ray this pic
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Unread postby princejw » Sat Apr 09, 2016 7:40 pm

please x-ray ive been dying to see her boobs
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Re: Real Xray Physics 101 - Please read before making reques

Unread postby Taitan894 » Tue Apr 19, 2016 6:11 pm

It's nice topic...I don't think cloth's material and importance of lightening...

It's good for beginner likes me
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Unread postby Dc4_Chris » Fri Apr 22, 2016 10:31 pm

Can you do this?
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Unread postby Truemon » Fri May 06, 2016 9:58 am

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Re: Real Xray Physics 101 - Please read before making reques

Unread postby xrt02rs » Thu Sep 08, 2016 3:24 am

Escher wrote:Ok, here are some examples of what will work and what work, mostly self explanatory !!

These work easy, single thin layer of material, no bra, forward looking

The attachment Easy.jpg is no longer available


These ones might work with a good bit of work, thick material but no obvious bra

The attachment Barely.jpg is no longer available


You've all seen these before, black top with a camera flash makes half the work already done

The attachment Flash.jpg is no longer available


Thats all that will really work, the following will not work (unless your really really lucky).

Heavily patterned tops. Even if it was possible, the pattern means you wouldn't see the nipples anyway.

The attachment Patterned.jpg is no longer available


Metallic / shiny / satin material. Too much reflection from the surface, not enough light reflecting off the skin below.

The attachment Metallic.jpg is no longer available


Obvious bra wearers, makes it too thick to see through

The attachment Bra.jpg is no longer available


The dreaded double layer bikini. The only one possible 'might' be the one in pink, but highly unlikely.
From left to right, too thick, too patterned, too thick, maybe possible, too patterned.

The attachment Bikini.jpg is no longer available


All the wrong angles. Even if they were all transparent, you would hardly see anything.

The attachment Angles.jpg is no longer available


I must disagree with most of the above.

From my experience all the information you need to Xray (or see thru clothing ) is in pretty much every pic I have experienced, no matter what they are wearing.

I think the confusion lies as in just what is an Xray and the Technique you are using, most here seem to just hope they can see thru clothing by adjusting levels, and maybe some hue and saturation, if it doesnt work then as above they claim the information is not present.....but it is....you just need to know how to access it.

Its all about light and shadows, blacks and whites

For example:
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Metallic: this is by far the easiest, easier than white.
This took me all of 1 minute, try it yourself.
Fuzzy select area
Levels, just select auto
Now select a skin tone close to the area your are going to add it to
Choose a brush and appropriate size
set paint level to say 5-10%
Work in from edge
Picture will paint itself, use different colour for different areas, so as to match light, dont rush and dont go to heavy
Use burn and dodge tools to highlight the light and shadow
Use gum colour for nipple
Use 'Overlay' in solid black with very small brush to highlight areas or find the nipple etc
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Unread postby xrt02rs » Thu Sep 08, 2016 3:32 am

Same techniques used below on other 'Un Xrayable' photos.

For patterned clothes try 'Greyscaling' selection then levels, and 100% Blur tool around pattern, this will blur pattern and leave the Light and shadow information behind if you apply the tool around the area correctly

It takes some practice but it works almost always on any picture, once you've mastered you will be knocking them out in less than 5 minutes

Hope this helps people on here
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Real quick go to show each one works
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Bras are no issue, light and shadow info is still available on photos with girls in coats!
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No drama with angles, although yes you may not see nipple or what not
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Unread postby Mymomisbitch » Tue Oct 18, 2016 12:32 pm

can u xray her boobs plzzz the guy that can wilwl get 1000$ paypal
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Unread postby jmikey » Wed Jan 18, 2017 11:13 pm

Can you please xray these if you can?
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Unread postby jmikey » Wed Jan 25, 2017 10:08 pm

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Re: Real Xray Physics 101 - Please read before making reques

Unread postby Ezerise » Sat Mar 04, 2017 11:57 pm

Xray my wife's bikini pics? Pleeeeease :)
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Re: Real Xray Physics 101 - Please read before making reques

Unread postby blondecollector » Sat Jul 08, 2017 3:48 am

Hi all. I did not realize that there was a section here for xray/see thru requests.

I have one for you. I am trying to get a good newer version (with no black over her shoulders)of this old xray pic of her and also if her side boob pic can be xrayed too. Her shirt seems like a light color making things easy thanks. I am giving double rep for real looking xrays
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Unread postby Fakie69 » Fri Aug 04, 2017 8:07 pm

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